NotWithoutMyOntic Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan i thought this was hella interesting...there isn't enough conversation about the scientists out there who do not consider themselves atheists. or what exactly atheism is anyway... some choice quotes from this page: Quote Those who raise questions about the God hypothesis and the soul hypothesis are by no means all atheists. An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidenceagainst the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence. Because God can be relegated to remote times and places and to ultimate causes, we would have to know a great deal more about the universe than we do to be sure that no such God exists. To be certain of the existence of God and to be certain of the nonexistence of God seem to me to be the confident extremes in a subject so riddled with doubt and uncertainty as to inspire very little confidence indeed. Quote An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid. Quote I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. 1 We need to teach children how to think rather than what to think. – Margaret Mead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord Barentsen Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I find these quotes wonderfully ambivalent. CS is rightly ambivalent about dismissing the idea of God outright, but then seems to rely on his own knowledge to suggest there's no such thing as an afterlife. When a book and a head collide and a hollow sound is heard, must it always have come from the book? -- Lichtenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Barnett Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 well i think there are some atheists who just think the world is larger than any science or ideology can explain...any real scientist will tell you that. 'That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.' - George Carlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotWithoutMyOntic Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 1:41 PM, Graham Barnett said: well i think there are some atheists who just think the world is larger than any science or ideology can explain...any real scientist will tell you that. I always thought that atheists were simply defined by the lack of belief in a personified God. We need to teach children how to think rather than what to think. – Margaret Mead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Barnett Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 4:21 PM, NotWithoutMyOntic said: I always thought that atheists were simply defined by the lack of belief in a personified God. yeah thats part of it but despite what atheists say there are different kinds with different beliefs...just like any religion 😄 'That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.' - George Carlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord Barentsen Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 In my opinion, there's a qualitative difference between saying "I don't believe in God" and "God doesn't exist"/"people who believe in God are delusional." For me, the first is a perfectly credible statement; the second involves indefensible ontological and epistemological assumptions. When a book and a head collide and a hollow sound is heard, must it always have come from the book? -- Lichtenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Barnett Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 10:23 AM, Gord Barentsen said: indefensible ontological and epistemological assumptions ok, i'll bite....what are those assumptions? 'That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.' - George Carlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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